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Clare Littleford Interview 

 

Kevin Patrick Mahoney interviews Clare Littleford, author of Beholden and Death Duty

 

KPM: How is work on the third novel coming along, interruptions like this notwithstanding?

 

Clare Littleford: Very well, thanks. I'm about half way through writing it and the plot and characters are starting to come together now, feeding into each other, which is always the exciting stage. Writing the third book is a different experience to writing the previous two, as Beholden was written with no idea whether I'd find a publisher, and I finished Death Duty just before Beholden was published, so book three is the first to be written since I started getting feedback from readers. I love getting feedback, but it does mean that I'm much more aware of my readers while writing. I hope that will turn out to be a good thing!

 

KPM: I know that you are very widely read.  Would you care to relate to the readers of Authortrek just how you set about choosing what next to read when you were growing up?

 

Clare Littleford: When I was a kid, I went to my local library just about every Saturday. When I was about eleven and I'd read my way through the children's section, I started on the adult section. I started at A and worked my way round - it was a small library, and I didn't read every book by any stretch of the imagination, but I did read a lot of different things. Everything from Len Deighton and Jeffrey Archer to more 'classic' authors like Dickens, Graham Greene, James Joyce. I had to stop when I reached 'R' as I had to sit my GCSEs! That makes me sound like a very precocious child, but really, it was a very small library. As a child, I read books to be transported to a different place - one of my most profound reading memories is reading 'Lord of the Flies' on a camping holiday, sitting alone in some woods with the book, immersed in the world of the island while the sunlight came through the trees in dappled patterns - certainly added to the atmosphere!

 

KPM: I have been living in your home town of Bedford for just about a year now, and I have been inspired to write by the town.  It seems to be a place that conjures up far out spiritual visions, from John Bunyan to the Panaceans.  Both of your novels are set in your adopted town of Nottingham. Have you never been inspired to write about your home town?

Clare Littleford: One of the reasons I like to write about Nottingham (apart from the urban grit that a city setting provides) is that although I've lived in Nottingham for 9 years and know the place very well, I still have an outsider's view of the place, which helps when using a particular setting for mood and atmosphere - often, it's knowing what details to use and what to leave out that makes a description do the job you want it to do. My knowledge of Bedford is so tied up with my memories of growing up there that I'm not sure I'd have the necessary distance to use the location to the best effect. I could end up writing autobiographically, which isn't something I really want to do - for one thing, my life hasn't been that interesting! That's not to say I won't decide to use Bedford as a setting in the future - there is something sinister to be said about small towns with the violence seething away under the surface. Not exactly Pilgrim's Progress, I suppose!

 

KPM: I am always on the lookout for new writers.  Can you recommend to Authortrek any other rising young stars from Nottinghamshire?  How are the fellow students on the Nottingham Trent University MA now faring?

 

Clare Littleford: There are two other writers in Nottingham who would fit that description! By sheer chance, Beholden was published at around the same time that two other first-time novelists living in Nottingham were being published; we've done a number of readings and talks together, and we've become good friends as a result. One, Stephan Collishaw, I already knew from the MA in Writing; his first novel 'The Last Girl' is set in Lithuania during the Second World War and in the present day, telling a story about guilt and regret that I found really moving. The other, Jon McGregor, made the long-list for the Booker Prize with 'If Nobody Speaks of Remarkable Things', which tells of one day in an unnamed street in an unnamed city, and details of the lives of the people on the street. It's wonderfully written, celebrating the everyday but with a strong story that underpins the power of the writing.

 

It's been great having two other writers at a similar stage in their careers to talk to - we can meet up for a drink and talk 'shop', which is a real bonus as writing can be a very isolated existence. They're also both extremely good writers, which is very exciting. Stephan is the only MA student I knew on the course who has had a novel published - but I met a lot of wonderful writers on the course who are working away on novels, poetry, filmscripts, all sorts of things, and hoping to get the break they deserve soon.

 

KPM: Both your novels feature characters who dream of escape from their dreary lives and jobs.  You now look to be living your dream life, working as a professional author.  Do you wake up pinching yourself every morning, or are there also daily frustrations in your new career?

 

Clare Littleford: It's funny, I always thought that writers knew what their main 'concern' or 'theme' was before they started writing, but that theme of running away, of dreaming of escape caught me by surprise. It just reared up when I was thinking about book three, and I realised that everything I write has the idea of escape somewhere near its centre. When I first started writing Beholden, I knew why that theme was there - I was doing a day job I didn't like verry much, and the germ of the idea that eventually became Beholden was that experience of sitting on a bus going to work, and not wanting to get off the bus at my stop, wanting to do anything but go to work. That's a feeling that most people experience, I'm sure.

 

Now I've escaped all of that, and I am extremely lucky to be in this situation. Of course there are frustrations - nothing is ever perfect - but the frustrations are different. I have control over my days, I love what I do. Balancing freelance work to pay a few bills with writing the book or doing readings can be overwhelming at times, and sitting alone writing can feel very isolated - but I still think I've got the best job in the world, and I wouldn't swap it for anything.

 

KPM: I was very interested to see that you have a link on your pages to Patricia Highsmith.  I loved "The Tremor of Forgery" in particular when I read it, and I couldn't help thinking that the mysterious death (or not) of the Arab in that novel resonates with the central mystery in "Death Duty"? What do you most admire about Highsmith?

 

Clare Littleford: You've named one of the few Highsmith novels I haven't actually read!

 

I love the way Highsmith starts from that combination of character and situation that puts her protagonists on a collision path with events. She starts from the premise that anybody can be a murderer, and by extension, that anybody can be mistaken for a murderer - so in 'Strangers on a Train' it's a chance meeting between two particular characters that sets off the chain of events, or in 'The Blunderer' the central character comes under suspicion and everything he does from that moment on just makes him seem even more guilty. The psychology of the characters is so well handled that even when they act out of character or do something that seems unlikely, it absolutely fits with the way their mind is working at that moment.

 

That's the sort of thing I find interesting with my own writing - taking an 'ordinary' person and putting them under so much pressure that they crack - it's not so much about a mystery that needs solving, more a situation that needs to be unravelled and explained to understand how someone can be a victim or a perpetrator, or most interestingly, both at once.

 

KPM: I've just been reading a website that relates how American bookshops are never quite sure whether to place Highsmith in the 'Mystery' section or Fiction, and your books seem to present the same dilemma, despite the jacket design.  Have you ever thought about writing in any other genre?  Do you, like Peter Williams in Beholden, have a liking for science fiction also?

Clare Littleford: Yes, there are some Highsmith novels that end up in the crime section even though there isn't a crime in the book - 'Carol', for example, is about a relationship and doesn't involve a crime at all, but is shoe-horned into the crime section as a 'suspense novel'. A lot of the time, genre is only really useful for bookshops trying to decide where to stack the stock.

 

I didn't actually set out to be a crime writer. When I sent my first book out to agents, the agent who agreed to represent me thought that Beholden would work very well as a psychological thriller. I hadn't though about it in those terms, but once I'd thought through my agent's suggestions and seen what he meant, I realised he was right. Now, I feel very 'at home' writing crime books, although they don't really fit easily into the genre - I don't have detectives, the books aren't really 'mysteries' in the pure sense of the genre. But the crime genre is a very fluid thing, and sometimes writing 'at the edges' of a genre can open up some very interesting territory.

 

I have to admit, I've never really read much sci-fi; I did read some as a child, but I've always been more interested in the 'real' world, the one we all live in. I admire writers who can use alternative realities to explore the reality we live in, but it's not something I'd like to do myself - the interior landscape of psychology is what interests me, and I think there's enough room in the 'real' world for me to explore that.

 

KPM:  I was interested by Peter's comments about sci-fi dystopias in Beholden, and I was wondering where you came across this theory?  I suspect that it came from your MA, but I may be wrong...  How did they did the explain pre-Soviet sci-fi, such as H G Wells?

 

Clare Littleford: Yes, that was an aside from a conversation with a couple of writers I met on the MA course. I have no idea how they would explain pre-Soviet sci-fi, but the theory seems to fit for Soviet sci-fi! It just seemed like the sort of theory Peter would subscribe to - and fitted the scene I was writing at tthe time.

 

KPM: You've quoted the Kinks' "Sunny Afternoon" in both novels, but I'm not sure how flattered the great Ray Davies would be, as both characters who express a preference for this song cannot be described as being totally well-balanced.  I used to have a well-loved tape called "100 Minutes of the Kinks" with all their hits from the 60s.  What does their music, and this song in particular, mean to you?

 

Clare Littleford: I'd actually forgotten that I'd mentioned Sunny Afternoon in Beholden when I mentioned it in Death Duty. It's surprisingly difficult to keep the details of more than one book in your head at the same time, even if you've written the books in question! You're right, I'm sure it isn't particularly flattering to Ray Davies! It's one of my favourite songs, but I think what I really like about it (and why I mentioned it in both novels) is that on first hearing it makes me think of sunny afternoons (natch) sitting out in a park with friends and a few beers, just 'chilling', a pleasant and relaxing time, but underneath this there's something more sinister going on in the song. I like music, books, art in general that has a disturbing edge to it - the idea that there's something lurking just beneath the surface pleasantness. That's certainly the sense I'd like to get across in my books. Life is dark, and unpleasantness lurks just out of sight. A cheerful thought to end on!

 

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